hate hate hate

[dr_tectonic]

Have I mentioned recently how much I hate Java and Sun?

Today's escapades: I'm trying unsuccessfully to download the JRE installer for my computer, but only getting the first 15 bytes of the files. I suspect they're having maintenance issues on their website, not that they've bothered to do anything to indicate that that's the case.

And WHY do I need to download the JRE installer? So that I can uninstall and reinstall java to get rid of Java Web Start, which was installed by some other program, refuses to uninstall itself, and which hijacks .jar files from the normal java runtime (again, without giving you the option to get rid of it and put things back to normal) so that it can fail to run them.

HATE!

Comments

[zalena.livejournal.com]

sdn frequently has hate fests in which everyone contributes pet peeves. They are often quite funny.

I am hating authors who don't know the difference between footnotes and endnotes. I HATE reformating ms. from footnotes to endnotes.

[bigreddee.livejournal.com]

I know I've thought this many times, but I have to declare it publicly: You give great HATE face!

[melted-snowball.livejournal.com]

Wow. That's impressive in its fuckupedness. Good luck...

[navrins]

You seem to get all the "fun" Java bugs.

[ng-nighthawk.livejournal.com]

Mono is looking more appealing, isn't it?

*ducks and prepares for flames*

[dr-tectonic.livejournal.com]

Uh, why?

I haven't heard of it before, but yeah, it looks kind of interesting.

(Lemme tell ya, if I were going to start the project over from scratch, we would DEFINITELY use a different programming language, possibly a combination of them. Java 1.5 fixes a lot of the earlier flaws in the language -- not that I have the resources to convert our code -- but most of the problems are still the idiocy in the core Java libraries.)

[ng-nighthawk.livejournal.com]

It retains the taint of microsoft, so I know many folks who, despite Mono's open source nature, would still abhore Mono based on where it originated.

But I work in .NET now. . . er, well, for work. I've worked with Java, but it was this weird-ass hybrid Java thing that was even worse than Java. . . it took the 3-tier model and made it into something like a 5 tier model, each tier of which had to be updated for any minor change. . .

Anyway, I've never worked with actual Java. But I know based on comments on slashdot that there are some hard-core Java evangelists out there who would say that Mono is a perversion of nature.

[dr-tectonic.livejournal.com]

Pfft! It sounds about as Microsoft-y as OpenOffice, if you ask me.

Given my own current attitude towards Java, the attitudes of the hard-core evangelists are more of a selling point for Mono than anything else. =)